#42: Hold Hands, Don't Step on Toes

#42: Hold Hands, Don't Step on Toes

Jul 21, 2025 | By Online People Talking Podcast

Listen, Like and Subscribe on Apple or Spotify Podcasts: 







Jen shares the mic with Cassy Williamson, a strategic performance coach at Impact Eighty-Eight and author of the upcoming book Unapologetic. They talk about thriving in chaos, building real collaboration with sales teams, and showing up fully yourself while driving results.

TITO Shoutout [12:24]

  • Cindy Salinas at Esperanza Homes – crushing it with prospecting, with 23% of her June appointments coming from aged leads.

Episode Highlights

  • Collaboration that sticks: Cassy’s phrase “hold hands, don't step on toes” becomes a powerful lens for online sales specialists and sales teams.
  • Culture belongs to everyone: Leadership sets the tone, but you can lead without a title.
  • Be unapologetically you: Cassy’s new book, Unapologetic, is about showing up fully yourself while pursuing impact. She shares where and when you can potentially snag a copy in the episode.


Skills Check [44:18]

  1. Identify someone whose toes you’ve stepped on (or vice versa)
  2. Reach out first with coffee, text, or a quick call
  3. Take one specific action to rebuild collaboration


🎧 Listen now and start holding hands, not stepping on toes.


Online Sales & Marketing Insights Delivered Straight To Your Inbox

Get Free Insights